33c3-hackbases Hackbases Meetup @ 33c3
2016-12-28 6:45PM
mod: @dcht00 from @chtotalism

Last updated:
    2016-12-30 1930 (post last session, everything teardown)


RELATED DOCS:

    🔗33c3
    🔗33c3-hackbases (this docu)
    🔗cfp-33c3-hackbases (lightning talk)








MAILING LIST CONTACT

1) Add yourself here:

* david@totalism.org
* deBaer@gmail.com
* hairyfotr@totalism.org
* ybdaba@gmail.com
* emramanauskaite@gmail.com


2) or mail to david@totalism.org




PREVIOUSLY

See:
    32c3🔗Session:Hackbases(R/W)
    🔗events

Also #TODO:
    * squatconf >david
    * C.H.A.N.G.E ??? (+acracia, +mo)




****************** MEETUP 1



    * hackbases basics:
        * read + update
        * Hackerspaces.org🔗Hackbases(R/W)


    * UPDATES: existing spaces + new spaces:

        * cht type2:
            🔗season4-C
            🔗season4-D

        * becha:
            house in Lika/Croatia
            did a ~3-week camp ~15/20 at a time
            ~july/august
            basic infrastructure... no internet
            "dealing with eachother" a big challenge
            "maybe happens again in 2 years"
            >becha URL ???
            http://unciv.nl

        * Simon/deBaer: Lausitz (?) Brandenburg:
            bought 2 houses on 3ooo m^2 of land
            meetings / seminars / workshops
            "a lot of renovation to be done"
            http://twitter.com/debaer
        
        * Matthijs (Portugal plans):
            "crossover between eco/permaculture places & hacker culture"
            "Looking for land"
            "doing research for 2 years -> Decentralized Society Research Project http://dsrp.eu
            " temporary living community in Northern Portugal to prepare for land acquisition, theoretical research, chilling and fun"
            check http://decentralize.hackpad.com/Temporary-residence-Galicia-Northern-Portugal-c7rqyHYOfUi

        * "inheritance pattern" instances:
            roo @london ?
            david+hairy @kranj/slovenia

        * bolwerk: s14/antwerp [not on congress]
            http://ooooo.be/S14/

        * sva: India spaces [not present]
          INFINITY = NORTH <-- Hillhacks ~april/may 
            http://wiki.hackerspaces.org/Infinity
          KEK = SOUTH <-- HackBeach ~november/december

        * yangwao: hackerdome in Bratislava (FREE MATE IN JUNE!)
        (from progressbar hackerspace)
            http://hackerdome.xyz/ <----------- DOWN ATM BACK SOON
            "FREE MATE FOR EVERYBODY! PLEASE VISIT!!!!!"
            fixing up the house ... changed all the windows 3-layered glass
            SEVEN ROOMS!
            MAYBE READY IN JUNE
            "finding balance between a squat/free-living etc"
            would be cool if people coming are in "web-of-trust" (from existing spaces, etc)

        * [...]


    * non-bases / "para-hackbases" activity in last year (presentations, etc):
        * "not officially" have a mattress "WORKS FOR ME"
        * Wed,Thu,Fri : becha @amsterdam <--- contact her first
        * (yangwao asks about Vienna) wizard ? (<-- wizard isn't here this year))
        * [...]


    * HACKBASES PROBLEMS?
    like what do you have in mind?
        * "smelly messy hacker" ?
    nah not really
    see 🔗manual



    * hackbase typologies development:
        * "design patterns" for hackbases and "para-hackbases" (spaces that can be used similarly)
        * see 🔗hackbase-type1 and 🔗hackbase-type2
        * FOCUS:
            "ways to start a hackbase" / "hackbase design patterns" (?)
        * [..]



    * coordination + discussion infrastructure:

        * Hackerspaces.org🔗Residencies(R/W) :
           * contact field was added
            * TODO: way for reports on "who stayed where"

        * IRC: #hackbases at Freenode !:
            Use Matrix (with IRC bridge)!:
                Try http://riot.im/app/#/room/#freenode_#hackbases:matrix.org
                20:00 matrix talk, self organised session C-1
            
        * [...]


    * work with hackerspaces.org:

        * TODO: START A NEW MAILING LIST:
            +jomat : @hackerspaces.org mailing lists

        get more exposure, push for more selfhosted services, more integration
        



    * ways to spread in the future:
        * enabling life-funding via hacker cooperative, Umbrella/CCT/ ...
        * promotion beyond "cognitive dissonance" <david
    

    * hackbases have 5 years! (CHT started 2011-12-26)


    * funding, spread, hacker cooperative:
        * hellekin update?
        * Umbrella + 



END OF SESSION 1 !


************ Lightning talk (Dcht00: Hackbases 5 years)

pad for slides:
    33c3🔗cfp-33c3-hackbases(R/W)

slides:
    http://hairyfotr.psywerx.org/share/Hackbases33c3-mini.pdf

talk video:
    http://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-8088-lightning_talks_day_3 cca 1:34:30 






************ SESSION 2 !

17:55 random banter already?


established most people believe it is at 1815

#TODO
why did d think its at 1800??
FAIL : +Timekeeping
--------
#roles.meta
better than Timekeeper

Some technical issues with nebula !!!
restarting sessions in ubuntu when on projector especially in firefox or console
(this also happened in prague!)
hmmm


1815



SHOWING OF LIGHTNING TALK

1825 okay, we can:
    watch the closing session together here
    or go there
    or talk hackbases
    OK cool all stay for this



Basics of hackbases


#flows
"WHO IS DEFINITELY BUSY IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY?"
out of around 20 people, only about 5 say they are definitely busy
#schedule


want to show how to get there?
Participants choose to ask more about details of space

<-- NEEDED SUPERLIMATION INTERVENTION: "what if i answer?"



______________________________


______________________________

QUESTIONS:
    * "what do you actually do there?"
    🔗
    * "what do you actually do there?"


q <david
Releasing totalism.org as a book:
<maxigas:
    http://bxl.dyne.org
some other people also approve of book idea

<michael
are you working with, are you thinking about it, can this be applied to the Refugees situation?
yes definitely thinkinga about it
want to do it properly first:
    documentation while testing it out in practice
    work on model of documentation
some resources useful already:
    🔗ordering for example
    [...] for example

Going from house to camping to land ownership:
    Land attributes: 🔗land-attributes

Subfinance is shown
(where the money goes)
--------------------------
WE NEED A NEW RENDER OF #SUBFINANCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #PRIORITY #NEXT #CHT5A

Question about food
    Trees / Agriculture
    Hunting / Fishing
    geology and natural history, where did the trees go, top soil has gone away but could still probably be found
    REWILDING is a seriously studied pattern and a possibility
    so would be other stuff we have documented in internals :
        ENVIRONMENT MAINTENANCE (cleaning trash and taking care of trees)
        even husbandry / keeping animals

TWO PEOPLE WANT TO DO A NEW HACKBASE IN AMSTERDAM
(when? "first half of 2017")
+chris and +kun
want to form a company around it "so people could live for free"
suggested to check out working together as 🔗coop, also see 🔗non-shitty

~18:55 finish and some debate


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